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Hiya everyone... Im in need of a bit of help and advice about my job. I have worked in a GP surgery for the last 10 years part time. I used to work as a healthcare assist/phlebotomist but now because of the RA I work on reception. I have cut my hours from 28 to 17 a week but at the moment I am off on the sick. I am in the process of starting anti tnf drugs and as yet they are not working, My GP signed me off for a month in March, I went back to work for a month but couldnt manage it so I was given a sick paper for another 6 weeks. Anyway my Practice Manager is pushing for me to retire on ill health, and she has sent off for the forms etc, I have said Im not ready to commit to anything yet but she says I can get them filled in and sent off but not be obligated to finish.. Im a bit unsure about this as I would have thought once you apply that sets things in motion.. Also my pay this month has been cut by half with no warning and I feel like Im going to have to go back to work even if im not well enough for financial reasons! I feel she is forcing me out. Any help or advice please I feel so stressed with it all lots of love Cerixx
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Hi Ceri Sorry to hear you are going through such a difficult time with your job. I cannot give you any good advice in that direction but I m sure others will be to hand to help. I know you have been on infliximab and hasn t shown any signs of helping. I am in a bit of a quandary with this too as I have been on it since early November and just not sure if it is working. I have been so up and down over this period, high crp and esr, I ve just lost the plot to be honest. I was also taking leflunomide but stopped it about five weeks ago and asked to go over to Mtx and take a chance, as I have some old tissue scaring on my lungs ( cause unknown ) I have been feeling better over the last couple of weeks although shoulders, arms and hands still sore and painful but not quite as bad. Just not really sure how much benefit I am actually getting from the infliximab, all a bit of a dilema and they do say about 70% of patients find each anti tnf successful Sorry I can t be a bit more help, just hope it does start to kick in, I know people at the infusion clinic have found it works very well. Julia x
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Hi Ceri
So sorry about your problems with your job. It seems that every way we turn with this illness we hit problems. Life's difficult enough with RA. I hope you get something sorted soon Why can't things be straight forward? You can do without added stress.
Sheila x
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Thanks Julia.. It is hard to know which way to turn as I had such high hopes on the infliximab working and so far it hasnt made any difference, in fact I think Im worse as I havent had a depo injection for months while they wait to see if it works! Like you said most people I speak to have done really well on it just our luck we're in the minority! Thanks for taking the time to answer it helps to know we're not alone. Really hope things improve for you love Ceri xx
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Hi Sheila Thanks again for your support really dont need work stress on top of everything else.. Have joined a union today and will ring them and see what they advise, Im sure RA is covered by the equality act and so I could possibly be eligible for disability leave. I really dont know but will try and keep positive. Hope your not too bad at the moment thanks again xx
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hi Ceri,
just wanted to say sorry to hear the stress you've got with your job ... i can't offer advice as i haven't worked for many a year, to be honest i wouldn't survive out there now not just because of RA but because i'm so out of touch.
i know how much you were pinning your hopes on the Infliximab, i really hope it does help soon ... we wait so long to start the Anti TNF as well.
hope someone can provide some information for you re work,
thinking of you,
Suzanne x
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Thanks Suzanne Didnt sleep at all last night worrying about everything going to ring union helpline later and see what they advise. Hope your not too bad and start Humira soon! Lots of love Ceri xx
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Sorry to hear all this Ceri .. it is not right .. and could be a claim under the Equality act .. This is the kind of thing it is there for... ring the helpline on here too .. Unsure as to your family and financial position but it could be you now qualify for Working Tax Credits or other benefits if your family income has dropped below a certain amount . Best of luck with this.. and i think any of us trying to get back in work or remain in work will be reading your experience with interest. Hugs Rich :) "The difference between 'involvement' and 'commitment' is like an eggs-and-ham breakfast: the chicken was 'involved' - the pig was 'committed'."
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hi Ceri,
just wanted to say do keep us updated,
i truly understand what a worrying time this is for you and hope that it doesn't affect your RA.
as ever Rich is there with his great advice,
P.S. i'm still waiting on the Humira !! my own Rheumy Nurse has been off and i did leave a message over a fortnight ago with the other Nurse, she said she would get the paper work rolling as i had to wait till the end of May to have failed 6 months on the Hydroxy. so i might see if my own Nurse is back next week,
Suzanne x
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Thanks Rich, Will ring the NRAS helpline tomorrow as well... Definitely think that prac manager is out of order, she hasnt offered any help since being diagnosed and I have had to take sick/holidays to attend hospital for the infusions. She's phoned me at home twice to ask about the 'retirement with ill health' forms and just seems to want me to leave as soon as poss! I dont think I would qualify for any benefits as my family are grown up and my husband is employed. Thanks again for your help and I will keep you updated. Ceri x
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Hi Ceri,
An employer is NOT allowed to ring you when off sick, it is harassment. As I understand it, the very least your employer should be doing is offering you a position that would be less affected by having time off. They have a 'Duty of Care'.
My employer is trying to remove me from my position too at the moment and have now been referred to OT, which I have seen before. But am looking forward to it.
I have my Union on speed dial lol
Good luck Ceri, fight the buggers, you'd think working for the G.P she might have a 'little' more understanding?!?!?!?
Thinking of you at this nasty and stressful time, keep your chin up
Trace xx
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Hi Ceri, Sorry to hear about your employer being so rubbish, seems to be a lot of it about. Not sure how GP practices work etc but are they covered by NHS 'rules'? If so they should have a totally transparent sickness policy which should be very clear about the procedures they should follow and when half pay applies etc. When I was in local governement it was always half pay after 6 months off sick then half pay for the next 6 months but all that may well have changed now with local pay and conditions negotiations coming in. Not had the pleasure of working for an employer for a good few years now! But hope your union is on the ball and gives you the support you need, you need some good advice on thsi one. Sara x
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Thanx Trace and Sara, I phoned the practice manager on Friday and asked her to look into my entitlement for disability leave.. She'd never heard of it, and said she would get back to me..Im not holding my breath! Also said that she thought they had been 'very accommodating' with me by allowing me to change my hours! I took Rich's advice and phoned nras and they were very helpful but said its up to the employers whether they pay disability leave or not, so just have to wait and see. Ive worked there for 10 years and dont like to be seen to be causing a fuss, but I have to do whats right for me. Anyway thanks for your support it really helps. Love Ceri xxx
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Very accommodating what a joke! Some people's idea of reasonable adjustments are ridiculous and they should be up in front of the industrial tribunals and then the stocks wouldn't be good enough! Make sure you keep notes of every conversation, they'll come in very useful at the hearing if it gets to that, makes my blood boil, oops typing too hard, that hurt! Keep laughing Ceri Sara x
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Hi Ceri
I hope you are feeling a bit better today. Don't let them get to you. I agree with everything Sara said. It is awful, the way they treat people. They don't have any compassion at all.
Sheila x
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hi Ceri,
sorry to hear therre's no improvement on the work front,
you'd think being a GP Practice they might be clued up as to what you're going through.
i can imagine how deflated you feel at having no back up from them,
hope you're coping with the RA side of things,
take care
Suzanne x
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Unfortunately working within the NHS can be a lottery as much as anywhere else. My next door neighbour was diagnosed with RA four years ago just as she started training to be a nurse. Apparently one of the nurses suggested she find herself a different career when first diagnosed. Four years on she is now fully qualified and her RA is in remission. I've been working as an IT Contractor, ie. a temp, within an NHS trust for the last 13 months and I've been very lucky as they have been accommodating with late starts and time off for appointments, albeit I only get paid anyway when I'm working. This I think was perhaps more to do with the fact several members of management had friends who suffer from RA than anything to do with it being the NHS. I was diagnosed almost 7 months ago, and it only flared up after I started working there. Now though I think some some managers' patience with sickness is become a little lacking and, having only just got extended last quarter at the last minute, I fully expect to probably be out the door at the end of this month. Nothing I can do about it unfortunately, its the trouble of being a Contractor. The official excuse will be they can't find the money to extend the contract but it'll always be niggling at the back of my mind it's the sick days .... mind you I'm only averaging about 3 days sick a month over the last quarter and some weren't even RA related Ceri, I hope things work out for you since RA is bad enough without the stress of employment issues weighing in. Nicola
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Thanks so much girls for your kind words and thanks Nicola for sharing your experience.. Had a phonecall yesterday from practice manager to say that she is coming out to see me next week with one of the Drs "to discuss things" Im so nervous about it even though I havent done anything wrong I just hate that its coming to this! Will keep you up to date... Thanks again, Love Ceri xx
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Hi Ceri
Will be thinking of you next week when you have the meeting, stay as positive as you can, I m sure you will. I think that your practice needs understand that it is relatively early days as you have only been on infliximab for a relatively short while, and if it works, which it well could, of course, then there will not be a problem with you remaining in your post at the surgery. I think they need to be patient, like we have to be constantly, living with RA, before any decisions are made about the future.
In recent days I have been browsing Youtube, and found some very interesting sites from consultants about RA , and generally speaking they all say once the RA is under control you can go to work and lead a relatively normal life.
Hope all goes well, Julia xx
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Hi Ceri. Don't be nervous about your meeting. I know it is easy for me to say but it is not your fault that you have this awful disease. You didn't ask for it so they should be compassionate. Just tell it like it is and stay positive. I am sure I can speak for everyone on the forum and say we are all behind you. Good luck
Sheila x
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